General
The information for these coaches is drawn mainly from:
- Carriage Stock of the LB&SCR
- P.J. Newbury. Oakwood Press, 1976. pp. 80.
- Corrections and Additions to The Carriage Stock of the LB&SCR
- J.D. Abson. Brighton Circle, 1987.
Further information is taken directly from original LB&SCR Carriage Registers kept at The National Archives under references RAIL-414/740 and RAIL-414/741.
For more comprehensive details see:
- LB&SCR Carriages. Volume 1: 4 and 6 wheel ordinary passenger stock
- I. White, S. Turner, S. Foulkes, Kestrel Railway Books, 2014. pp. [228]. (ISBN 978 1 905 505 35 7).
- LB&SCR Carriages. Volume 2: 4 and 6 wheeled Saloons, Vans and Restorations
- I. White, S. Turner, S. Foulkes, Kestrel Railway Books, 2016. pp. [224]. (ISBN 978 1 905 505 36 4).
Inspection Saloon (Diagram 16/31)
Details
48 ft by 8 ft 9 in. Bogie vehicle. 2 saloon compartments. 2 lavatories accessible from all seats. Seating 18. Tare 24 tons.
Newbury drawing No.22
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 72 | 1889 | 1930 | SR No.7969 |
Royal Saloon (Diagram 17/32)
Details
32 ft 3 in by 8 ft. 6 wheels on Cleminson radial trucks. 2 non-smoking compartments and 1 smoking compartment. 1 lavatory accessible from all seats. Seating 19. Tare 11 tons 3 cwt.
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 510 | 1877 | 1925 |
First Saloon (Diagram 18/141)
Details
28 ft 4½ in long. 6 wheels.
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 433 | 1871 | January 1921 | Transferred to Third Saloon No.616 in December 1907. This vehicle appears to have been used as a semi-Royal saloon forming part of the Royal Train with No.510 (Dia.17/32) |
First Saloon (Diagram 19/142)
Details
30 ft by 8 ft. 1 first class saloon compartment. Luggage compartment. 1 lavatory accessible from all seats. Seating 19. Tare 11 tons 10 cwt.
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 589 | 1882 | Before grouping | Built by Brown Marshalls. Reclassified Second No.464 in 1906. |
| 590 | 1882 | Before grouping | Built by Brown Marshalls. Reclassified Second No.465 in 1906. |
| 591 | 1882 | Before grouping | Built by Brown Marshalls. Reclassified Second No.466 in 1906. |
| 592 | 1882 | Before grouping | Built by Brown Marshalls. Reclassified Second No.467 in 1906. |
First Saloon (Diagram 20/33)
Details
30 ft by 8 ft. 6 wheels on Cleminson radial trucks. 1 first class saloon compartment. Luggage compartment. 1 lavatory accessible from all seats. Seating 19. Tare 11 tons 10 cwt.
Newbury drawing No.26
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 542 | 1879 | December 1899 | Written off after Wivelsfield Crash. |
| 543 | 1879 | 1922 | |
| 593 | 1882 | 1919 | Built by Brown Marshalls |
| 594 | 1882 | 1919 | Built by Brown Marshalls |
| 595 | 1882 | 1919 | Built by Brown Marshalls |
| 596 | 1882 | After grouping | Built by Brown Marshalls. SR No.7957 |
First Saloon (Diagram 21/34)
Details
30 ft by 8 ft. 6 wheels on Cleminson radial trucks. 1 first class saloon compartment. Luggage compartment. 1 servants compartment. 1 lavatory accessible from saloon only. Seating 21. Tare 11 tons 5 cwt.
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 573 | 1880 | 1919 | |
| 574 | 1880 | After grouping | SR No.7952 |
| 597 | 1882 | 1919 | Built by Brown Marshalls |
| 598 | 1882 | 1919 | Built by Brown Marshalls |
| 599 | 1882 | After grouping | Built by Brown Marshalls. SR No.7953 |
| 600 | 1882 | 1919 | Built by Brown Marshalls |
First Saloon (Diagram 22/143)
Details
30 ft. 6 wheels. 2 first class saloon compartments each 13 ft 55/8 in. Luggage compartment. 1 servants compartment. 1 lavatory accessible from saloon only. Seating 21. Tare 11 tons 5 cwt.
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 497 | December 1875 | February 1906 | |
| 498 | December 1875 | June 1907 | Transferred to Third Saloon No.463 in April 1902. |
Second Saloon (Diagram 23/-)
Details
26 ft by 8 ft. 4 wheels. 2 second class saloon compartments. Seating 18. Tare 10 tons.
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 429 | 1881 | 1901/1910 | |
| 430 | 1881 | 1901/1910 | |
| 431 | 1881 | 1901/1910 | |
| 432 | 1881 | 1901/1910 | |
| 433 | 1882 | 1901/1910 | |
| 434 | 1882 | 1901/1910 |
Second Saloon (Diagram 24/-)
Details
26 ft. 4 wheels.
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 461 | 1881 | May 1912 |
Second Saloon (Diagram 25/-)
Details
26 ft. 4 wheels.
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | November 1900 | March 1903 | Transferred from Invalid Saloon Dia.26 No.575 |
Invalid Saloon (Diagram 26/-)
Details
26 ft. 4 wheels.
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 575 | 1880 | March 1903 | Transferred to Second Saloon No.1 November 1900 |
| 576 | 1884 | November 1908 |
Invalid Saloon (Diagram 29/36)
Details
30 ft by 8 ft. 6 wheels on Cleminson radial trucks. 1 invalid saloon compartment. 1 servant compartment. 1 luggage compartment. 1 lavatory accessible from saloon compartment only. Seating 9. Tare 11 tons 10 cwt.
| Number | Built | Withdrawn | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| 569 | 1880 | 1924 | |
| 577 | 1893 | 1925 | Reclassified Third No.305 in 1919. |
| 578 | 1893 | After grouping | SR No.7955 |
| 69 | 1899 | ? | |
| 581 | 1903 | 1925 | Reclassified Third No.306 in 1920. |
| 582 | 1904 | After grouping | SR No.7956 |